Geo. Certification vs. Mentoring (8-Nov-2006)
A common question that comes up in various OSGeo forums is: Should OSGeo seek to provide a professional certification programme for individuals? This is usually in the context of educational curriculum development. The common answer is: "No, we don't want to go there, at least not yet. If we create curriculum, let institutions use it and grant their own diplomas if they want."
One of the reasons it is a recurring question, without a clear logical solution, is because one of the goals of the Education Committee is to create and/or distribute training materials for open source products. It makes sense that an organisation that is intimately involved with several projects would also be the ones to help pull together curriculum for teaching in an academic or professional environment. But where does OSGeo's involvement in applying that curriculum end?
Should there be anything more formal that OSGeo provides after someone completes such a set of courses? Would it matter at all to a student if he had a certificate from OSGeo? When someone completes a set of courses, are they ready for the workforce? Are they technically competent to be successful in the geospatial field?
These are questions that I am sure the various GIS Certification programmes and diploma granting organisations have had to wrestle with.
Even when all the courses are complete and tests passed, is there more that an eager student or practitioner should be doing? Academic and job experience are only part of the equation for success. I define success somewhat differently than traditional institutes may. I believe success in the professional geospatial domain is not measured by merely what is packed into a person's head or on their resume.
We all know that someone who is a contributing part of an active community is much more aware of issues, connected to other like-minded individuals, challenged to find new ways to solve bigger problems, etc. This is a parallel to the Free/Open Source Software model - taking without giving back is hardly ideal for both parties. So it is with the geospatial professions. Success is building effective communities by gaining knowledge and applying it in an appropriate manner.
I envision a programme that goes far beyond the traditional "train, test, graduate, work" paradigm. I believe the time is coming when we will need to develop a range of Geospatial Professional mentorship programmes (presumably based around Free/Open Source projects), for creating certified Geospatial Developer Professionals, Geospatial Analyst Professionals, Geospatial Database Professionals, etc. I'm sure you could come up with better names, but you get the idea.
The important part is not that you get some certificate at the end, rather, that there is no end! It would run more like a guild. Students in training (or apprentices) are trained by their seniors (journeymen) who are in turn mentored by seasoned masters. There would still be some sort of certification requirements, but the key is that the junior pupils work closely with their mentors - to complete specific projects/tasks, to do various testing, to have ongoing assessments, etc. This builds accountability and provides a meaningful commitment to excellence over the long term (as opposed to possibly building a false confidence in the short term).
What's in it for the pupil? As opposed to a traditional certificate scheme, this one isn't focused on building up a resume or transcript. Instead, it focuses on building up a person, a pair of people in a relationship, and a place for someone in a supportive community. I wouldn't expect someone who just wants to learn a few tools and get on with work to necessarily care as much about these methods. Instead, it would attract the keenly interested individual who may already have some education or job experience, yet wants to associate with and be recognised by a broader community and to be challenged to grow over a longer period of time.
Who would do all the work? Obviously the pupil will be the main one being taught or given tasks and projects, but the mentor will also benefit from the experience. It is hard work to oversee someone as they learn and develop. I draw a parallel to the Free/Open Source model here as well - where those who help support new users gain in many ways. They hunt into the details of strange bugs or data issues and thus learn the tools better themselves, they touch the lives of people around the globe and build a positive reputation, etc. In essence, their actions help give the community its very breath - one question at a time.
Perhaps I have too many fairy tale dreams about master craftsmen living in harmony in days of old, but I believe a model like this would help add a more vibrant, professional, interconnected community. I know I would have liked to have been brought up in such a culture of learning. Although, in some ways, this is what open source has been doing for me already. More to come later when I have some free time to sketch out the ideas on paper.
Tyler Mitchell
8-Nov-2006
Dylan Beaudette:
Thanks for sharing these ideas Tyler. This discussion reminds me how amateur radio works: mentors (often called elmers in the hobby) are the key ingredient in getting people interested in the hobby, and making sure that young people get the most out of it. Once a new member in the club has gained enough experience he/she becomes the mentor for the next generation. In all the activities I participated in as a young adult, amateur radio was by far the most rewarding- not only did i make great friends, but i learned a hell of a lot about radio and electronics. In addition it fostered the sense of curiosity which must be related to my adventurs in FOSS land. In many ways this approach is a natural extension of the mailing lists where many of these communities are started.
From the other side of the topic, I have found being a local FOSS "mentor" (i use this term loosely) has been very rewarding. we are teaching a short course on "open source software for soil scientists" (http://casoilresource.lawr.ucdavis.edu/drupal/node/294).
In summary, not a lot of new ideas from me- just wanted to show some support for your goals. Again, perhaps this is yet another good opportunity for OSGEO to shine.
Cheers,
Dylan
Tyler Mitchell:
Dylan-
Interesting parallels with amateur radio. What are some of the methods they use to determine when someone is ready to be a mentor? I would love to see enough interest for OSGeo to help take this on, but the question ultimately starts with: how do we get started and make sure our mentors themselves are meeting high enough standards? As in any FOSS related project, getting that initial batch of committers is not something you can always rush. You want to at least start with a group of people who are ready for the job. I guess you have to first define the job though and then take in some sort of application. Any suggestions?
Tyler
The Sunburned Surveyor:
Tyler,
I was very interested in your blog post about geospatial education. I'm particularly interested in your comments about the role of open source geospatial software and mentoring in the "fairy tale dream" you described. I have often considered the same type of program for Land Surveyors, whom are in short supply in my part of the world.
I think your "fairy tale dream" is actually a very practical solution to a very pressing problem. I have experienced first hand some of the serious flaws with the higher education system, at least in America, and I believe that much could be gained from an effective and organized mentoring program for geospatial professions. This will put instruction of geospatial concepts and the practical application of those concepts within the reach of talented individuals who possess the desire to learn, but who may not possess the circumstances or financial means to attend a university.
As a project manager for a civil engineering and land surveying firm, and as the owner of my own small geospatial consulting business I can tell you that I would fully support such a "geospatial" mentoring program. Especially one focused on open source geospatial applications.
I would like to offer my assistance in getting such a program off of the ground. If you are interested send me an e-mail. I urge other geospatial professionals to do the same.
The Sunburned Surveyor
Tyler Mitchell:
> I have often considered the same type of program for Land
> Surveyors, whom are in short supply in my part of the world.
> I think your "fairy tale dream" is actually a very practical
> solution to a very pressing problem.
Hi Sunburned,
Thanks for the note. Your point above is part of the rationale I have in the back of my mind. For decades we've seen a pending labour shortage and I believe this is worldwide. Technical professionals appear destined for decline as ns continue to increase. GIS and mapping is no different. I've went through several bouts of hiring when I was a GIS manager. I was looking for advanced/senior GIS-related positions and have found it very hard to find more than one qualified person in my region (who wasn't already happily engaged in other work). So, in short, I agree this is a very pressing problem.
> This will put instruction of geospatial concepts and
> the practical application of those concepts within the reach of
> talented individuals who possess the desire to learn, but who
> may not possess the circumstances or financial means to attend a
> university.
I couldn't agree more. Part of what I would like to see are programmes that help build a person into something they aspire to be. In some cases this may take a couple years or a decade. In other cases, like in some trades, a candidate may never actually graduate due to commitment or time constraints. But at least they will have someone there telling them what is wrong, holding their hand or encouraging them to reach their full potential. I know I would have liked that after I jumped straight out of university and into an industrial GIS job.
I'm not trying to discredit or downplay the potential role of certification or education, but like you, I see various benefits to a programme run by and for building up better professionals. Who knows, it may very well also tap into certification programmes or use existing training material, but the key difference would be the interaction with a mentor.
> I would like to offer my assistance in getting such a program
> off of the ground. If you are interested send me an e-mail. I
> urge other geospatial professionals to do the same.
I would love to hear more ideas about how to start to lay this out more clearly. Over the upcoming weeks I'll try to put some more structure to the concepts and post it for you.
Tyler
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